Men in churches, in Malaysia as far as I have known of do not drink, smoke or womenise. We become domesticated. There's a widespread saying that goes on in certain Malaysian communities, "If you want to find good husbands (that do not drink, smoke or womenise), grab the guys in Christian churches".
Though I affirm that it is true that in the Bible that it is strictly a sin to womenise, the Bible did not condemn drinking and smoking. After all in the past century, smoking is not something queer as it is a common thing among British men after World War I & II, although in the latter years we knew about its health hazards. According to Mark Driscoll, in his Radical Reformission book, said that "a number of God's people down the years have greatly enjoyed alcohol'. St. Gall was a missionary to the Celts and a renowned brewer. After Charlemagne's reign, the church became Europe's exclusive brewer... Pastor John Calvin's annual salary package included upward of 250 gallons of wine to be enjoyed by him and his guests.... Martin Luther's wife Catherine was a skilled brewer, and his love letters to her when they were apart lamented his ability to drink her beer. When the Puritan's landed at Plymouth Rock, the first permanent building they erected was a brewery."
He longed for the glory days of Christian pubs where God's men gather to drink beer and talk theology and suggested brand names for brews like 'Lord's Lager, Holy Hefeweizen, Pastor's Porter, Alleluia Ale, Saintly Stout, and Lucifer's Light.'.
I personally feel that if we are to identify with our Chinese community (or certain Indian communities), we need to recover our Christian appreciation for liquors. After all, the Chinese in the ancient past have been great makers of liquors. Tsing Chao wine is often used in cooking, Red Wine is used widely in Foochow cooking (especially their wine mee suah), DOM wine (invented by a French priest) is consumed widely by Chinese women during their maternity. Besides XO, Tiger Beer, Guiness Stout have been favourites by the Chinese community during festivities.
If we can only appreciate the beauty of drinking liquor, having a toast of beer as a sign of friendship, fellowship, equality, and celebration can be very much a spiritual activity, if done in moderation and not lead to drunkenness.
Why can't we see Christian men flock the pubs to talk theology and to plan their men's fellowship outreach activities? Why can't we see our churches run Christian cafes and pubs as a healthy avenue for the community to have a healthy, moral social outlet? Why can't we see our men go watch football and toasting beer, forming friendship and fellowship between men in churches?
My last words, the beer and the love for God can go along, side by side, like this, hehe. Probably we can start our own 'Lion of Judah Beer' or 'Guiness Holy Stout', Maranatha Tapai or even Hallelujah Toddy.
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Had my first cigar in US last Sept, hehehe... and a social drinker, but try to prevent hard liquor cos the alcohol content is way above those in the days of Calvin and Luther kakaka...
In some mission context like "Drunk Before Dawn" i can understand why the church needs to put up a strong wall and encourage teetotalitarianism... :)
Er... on womanising, we should vehemently say no to fornication and adultery and other vices... but I think we have a good case for flirting :) Many Christian guys are lousy at courting the sista's, which cause untold social laments!
Hard liquor? why not? hehe.. progressive mah.
I understand that in certain contexts like 'Drunk before Dawn', it is justifiable for the local church to put up such strong prohibition on drinking, but that doesn't mean that we should be fearful of having a sip or two during festivities and fellowship probably :D
Hehe, yeah, I admit that we are lousy in courting our sisters :P and probably what's more to hope for is for Christian chivalry among our men, which of course speaks of my own failure to meet the standards. Men with courage, integrity, love, compassion, and the guts to do hard things that people don't usually do. eg: learn theology, selling our possessions and give it to the poor, serving the widows and singles in our community etc.
My 2 cents
Had a can of beer at my discordantdude's grandma's place yesterday kakaka... It may take more than a dozen cans of carlsberg to do the trick but i'd try not to take hard liquor simply bcos the alcohol percentage, it's very easy to knock us out. (esp untrained newbies like u)
And getting drunk is a sin mar... :D
I think this issue about the church being feminised and Christian men forced to tone down their macho-ness was addressed in John Eldredge's book Wild at Heart. I haven't read it (not because I'm a woman; I just have too many books as yet unread), but I've read stuff about it.
I don't see why Christian men shouldn't drink. My dad enjoys the occasional beer, too ;)
Sunflower: I was tempted to buy the book too, but too many books to read dy.
Daud : What? Newbie like me?%$@% :D
OK, swearing is macho too! :)
Actually Nancy Pearcey's book has a very good chapter on tis topic, Eldredge has the right analysis, but his prescription was reportedly to be too mushy. But i also havent read it, but read about it at www.cbmw.org
Oh my brother! Please call me for the beer and theology session man!
Haha sure no problem. The coming Agora meeting in gonna be at Jalan Telawi Bangsar. Ask Dave for more details. See you there!
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